Vance, Walz clash over immigration and abortion in a somewhat polite VP debate – Technologist

US vice presidential contenders J.D. Vance and Tim Walz kicked off what could be an unusually important undercard debate Tuesday, September 1 as they competed for decisive votes in America’s heartland just weeks before the election.

The two shook hands in New York before the CBS event began with a first question on the crisis in the Middle East, specifically Iran’s missile attack on Israel and Walz immediately turned his fire on Trump’s foreign policy record, slamming the ex-president for his “turn towards” Russia’s Vladimir Putin” and his withdrawal of the United States from the 2015 Iran nuclear disarmament deal, known as the JCPOA.

“As much as Governor Walz just accused Donald Trump of being an agent of chaos, Donald Trump actually delivered stability in the world,” Vance countered. “And he did it by establishing effective deterrence. People were afraid of stepping out of line.”

Walz then accused his Republican rival of seeking to “dehumanize” immigrants as the pair clashed on the issue.

“By standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, [immigration] becomes a talking point,” Walz said when the debate turned to tensions in Springfield, Ohio over migrants. “And when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings.”

When the topic switched to abortion and women’s reproductive rights, Vance accused Democrats of “radical pro-abortion” and “barbaric” laws as he defended and clarified his own stance on the topic.

“We have a partial birth abortion ban in place in this country at the federal level. I don’t think anybody’s trying to get rid of that or at least I hope not, though I know that Democrats have taken a very radical pro-abortion stance,” Vance said. Walz hit back saying he was “pro-women.”

‘Our first responsibility is to our kids’

Discussing gun violence, Walz shared an emotional story about his son witnessing a shooting while playing volleyball. Though Walz acknowledged the Second amendment, he said, “Our first responsibility is to our kids.”

When it was Vance’s turn, he appeared to sincerely offer condolences, acknowledging he wasn’t aware that his son had witnessed a shooting.

The showdown between Walz, the Democratic Minnesota governor chosen by Kamala Harris, and Vance, the Republican senator from Ohio who is Donald Trump’s running mate, is likely to be the last of the 2024 campaign, as Trump has refused a second debate with Vice President.

Vance, 40, and Walz, 60, each claim to be the true voice of the crucial Midwestern swing states – including Michigan and Wisconsin – that could decide an election that remains on a knife-edge with five weeks to go. Both have been out of the spotlight as of late, but Walz, ahead of the showdown, offered a brief message on X: “Looking forward to tonight.”

Biden offered words of encouragement for Walz, telling him in a post on X ahead of his big night: “Coach, I got your back tonight!”

History suggests vice presidential debates rarely move the dial much. But in an election campaign that has seen Harris step in for US President Joe Biden unprecedentedly late in the game, Tuesday’s contest may have added significance.

However, the debate risks being overshadowed by Mideast tensions, after Iran launched ballistic missiles against Israel, which said it largely repelled the attack. Trump, visiting swing state Wisconsin on Tuesday, made zero mention of Vance or the VP debate in a rambling address. But he did insist that “if I were in charge, today’s attack on Israel never would have happened.”

The CBS clash also comes as several states dig out from catastrophic Hurricane Helene, which has left at least 130 people dead and brought injury and destruction to thousands more.

‘High drama’

Walz and Vance were each picked by their bosses to reach out to voters in the Midwestern battlegrounds where, thanks to the country’s idiosyncratic electoral college system, a few thousand votes could determine who wins the White House race. Both are military veterans with strong blue-collar credentials. Vance authored the Rust Belt memoir “Hillbilly Elegy” while Walz boasts a folksy persona as a former teacher and football coach.

The similarities end there.

The combative Vance shares Trump’s penchant for courting controversy, whether by smearing Democrats as “childless cat ladies” or by boosting false claims that Haitians living in an Ohio town ate residents’ pets. His goal will be to overcome polls that initially had him as one of the least popular VP nominees in history after a series of previous comments on women and abortion were unearthed. “Vance has to be careful because I think a trap has been laid for him,” said Whalen.

The cheery Walz will be seeking to introduce himself to a public that barely knows him, after Harris’s swift rise to replace Biden as the Democratic nominee. He became a hit with Democrats for branding Vance and Trump “weird” and for his progressive politics – but that will be a target for Vance as he and Trump seek to paint Walz and Harris as “Marxists.”

Vance “is going up against a moron, a total moron,” Trump said in an interview Monday on Fox Nation.

Televised debates have already proved their ability to shock this year, with Biden forced to drop his reelection bid after a disastrous performance against Trump in June brought long-simmering concerns about his age to the fore. Whalen said few vice presidential debates have “had any appreciable difference” in the past, but Tuesday’s clash could produce “high drama” for viewers who love political theater.